What is the Right Size Buena Vista Frame For Me?

Fantastic! You have set your heart on one of our mixte frames. But what size do you need?

Though many of the Buena Vistas we sell have eventually been built with riser/flat bars or city bars, it is essential to understand the Buena Vista was designed as a sport touring drop bar bike. 

What is a sport touring bike?
Our working definition is a bike that is practical for long distances (10+ miles), riding fast, and allow you to carry a light load over flat terrain as well as hills. The rider is in a relatively neutral position where you can pedal efficiently in a relaxed manner, but can also move forward to put more weight on the bars and front wheel for more steering control and to engage different muscles to reduce fatigue.
The rider is not in a hunched forward, aerodynamic position as on a dedicated racing bike, but neither is the rider sitting straight upright as on a beach cruiser or one of those rental fleet bikes. 
Other bike categories that overlap with this type of bike include "all-road", "endurance road", "touring" and "gravel".

Why are there two sizing charts below?

If you build the Buena Vista bike with flat bars AND want to maintain a SIMILAR athletic riding position described above, then you need to usually go to the NEXT SIZE UP.  If you don't size up, the typical 9° bend flat bar will bring your hands about 150mm (almost 6") closer to your body than the hoods of the brake levers on a drop bar. 

Picking the size:
Some people can fit more than one size. Some might look like they are in between sizes. We usually recommend getting the smaller size if you are between sizes. When sizing down you can make up length with a longer stem. That usually works unless you are getting a bar with a lot of backsweep (think Nitto Bosco or Soma Oxford), but aren't going for a very relaxed and upright riding position. 

What if you are going for a more relaxed riding position than "sport touring"?

There are going to be some bodies that want or demand more comfort than the typical sport touring ride position affords.
• Perhaps you have limited flexibility in the neck or back.
• Perhaps you find that when you have to put more weight on the grips, you feel more fatigue on the shoulders and neck at the end of a ride.
• Doesn't a more upright sitting position mean I can sightsee and check traffic around me more easily?
Yes it does. So it makes sense some riders want a ride position in between sport touring and beach cruiser.

There are several ways to achieve that goal with component choices and the bike fit process:

1) Size up to the next size and get bars with more backsweep and/or some extra rise.

2) Size up to the next size and set the bars a little higher than you would the drop bars. Our fork steerers are very long so you can set the bars 30mm to 80mm above the frame.

3) Size up to the next size and get a shorter stem, though we don't recommend stems shorter than 60mm to keep steering optimal.

4) Don't size up. Get a shallow gravel style drop bar. play with stem length and set the bar higher than your optimized saddle height. 

5) Don't size up. Go get the flat bar or city bar you want. Sit up and enjoy the view. Most likely it might be harder to stand up and pedal out of the saddle. But that isn't an important issue for everybody. Do look out for whether your knees get close to striking any part of the bar when pedaling (either sitting or standing).

The basic bio-mechanical pros and cons are:

1) When the bars are farther away from your shoulder, you can more easily put your body weight and muscle onto the bars. That is why a lot gravel bike and all-road bike set ups have their bars a few cms below the saddle height or level. Competitive cyclists almost always have their bars lower than their saddles. BUT of course it is difficult for regular folks to ride in that position for long periods of time.

2) To allow you to sit more upright, you either bring the bar higher up or farther back or a bit of both. 
The higher you sit up the more comfortable it is on your back and shoulders and hands. (Carpal tunnel is a real thing on bikes).
BUT the more upright you are, the more pressure there is on your butt and nether regions, so you may need a saddle with more cushioning on the sit bones. And the more upright you are, the less you can engage your gluteal muscles. You are limited to only using certain leg muscles. And when you are sitting up more, in a headwind you will be slower.

Upright position is great for short rides on flat streets.
This bike set up is a little small for this person.
Grips are very close to her body. Could feel cramped. (Shutterstock) 

This gal as her handlebar maybe an inch or two taller than
her saddle. And the bar is far enough away from her body
she can pedal out of the saddle comfortably when needed.
(photo: @wayamaeba)

If you are not out to break Strava records,  
putting the bars about level with your optimized saddle height
is a good starting point for your bike fit. A good bike
shop will let you test ride the bike in a couple of different
set-ups over weeks, before asking you to decide on one.

Bar choice affects fit as much as it does style and looks.
As mentioned earlier the difference between drop bars and typical flat bars
can reduce reach by 15cm (6 inches). Alt MTB and city bike bars can reduce reach another 5 to 10cm.

Soma Fog Cutter v.2 Review on YouTube

We sent a Fog Cutter all the way to Girona, Spain so Russ of The Path Less Pedaled could have a bike to play with different drivetrain ideas in his search for "peak mechanical" set ups.
Russ has a couple of gravel / ATB / country road bikes, but not a dedicated "fast" road bike. And he was finding a lot a smooth asphalt in his explorations of the area, so a road bike made some sense.

While he has been swapping parts a lot, we'd describe is his build as practical and basic except for the Paul Klamper brakes. He has the steel fork option (not the carbon) and is taking advantage of the mini-rack mounts on the this fork. 

Russ liked that it had external cable routing for easy maintenance and fiddling and the steel fork doesn't limit stack adjustability like a carbon steerer fork would. He said it was hard to find a "basic" bike that had these practical features, but still able to take disc brakes and thru-axle wheels.
He sees it as a nicer option to the Surly Midnight Special.

[Link to review]

Statement from The Path Less Pedaled: We believe there's more to cycling than placing onto a podium. We ride for fun and camaraderie, for travel and transportation - and we know we're not the only ones! As two people who don’t look like or ride like traditional industry-backed cyclists, we know the bike world can seem a bit off-putting at first - which is why we're determined to create space for all of us who find ourselves outside of the racing paradigm. We call it Party Pace - and we welcome you to join us!

The Bike That Seduced Me Into Bikepacking

Catalina and her partner Jose Pacheco are currently bikepacking through some beautiful and remote sections of the High Andes in Bolivia. They are capturing their experience on their blog monteadentro.cc. The bikepacking bug has got them constantly seeking new destinations and routes. Starting in Valdivia, Chile, they have travelled over 10,000 km since October 2023 over varied landscapes that are sometimes breathtaking in more ways than one. The blog is in Spanish, but their photography crosses any language barrier. Plus anyone can download the gpx files with key information in English. Their Instagram is also in Spanish, however they have begun including English translation on current posts.

Catalina rides one of our Soma Riff 27.5" wheel hardtail frames.
And we are very grateful she wanted to share the unusual way she came to own her bike.

This is my Soma Riff.  The only thing I love more is riding it.

Hello, I'm Catalina Melo from Colombia. Since I was a child, I have been passionate about sports; anything involving a ball, equipment, or simply being outdoors was my happy place. Soccer was my favorite sport for many years and I competed in local and national tournaments until I was 30. However, a number of injuries forced me to stop playing. 

But living without sports was impossible, so I started road cycling. I've enjoyed biking since I was young and used it as a means of transportation in a busy city like Bogotá, so the shift came naturally. Yet, I felt something was missing; the thrill wasn't the same.

A few years later, during a short mountain biking trip, my partner [Jose] experienced a life-threatening robbery. After this unfortunate incident, he made the decision to “take revenge“ by assembling his "ultimate mountain bike". That's how the SOMA Riff came into our home. However, he only used it a few times before embarking on his first extended bikepacking trip -- using another bike.

The SOMA remained in my room, and I was tasked with caring for it. Later, he admitted that he had also left it to lure me. Every night before bed, I would look at it and thought it was the most beautiful bike ever. Not only was it in my favorite color, but the color also had a connection to music history. And me having graduated from a music program, it was just a question of time and fate before this bike would become mine.

"Every night before bed, I would look at it and thought
it was the most beautiful bike ever."

One day, I decided to try riding it on a short trail, and I realized that mountain biking was what I had been missing: tackling technical descents, steep rocky climbs, singletracks, and remote and solitary routes feels like scoring a goal, making a perfect play, or winning a match. 

Desierto del Diablo (the Devil's Desert), an out of this world landscape
in Puna de Atacama, Argentina

This bike has witnessed my evolution as a cyclist and has motivated me to embark on adventurous bikepacking trips in Colombia and other parts of South America. I can without a doubt, confirm that the Riff frame offers everything I could wish for: 

1. Steel is Real

There's nowhere this bike can't go—rocks, sand, rivers. Nothing is as reliable as steel. This bike is perfect for bikepacking as it can carry loads without risking damage. Additionally, the  frame allows for easy rear rack attachment.

2. Tire Clearance

In Colombia, I regularly ride with 2.4-inch tires with a shock fork for short trips and day rides. However my bikepacking setup are 2.8" tires and a rigid fork; this is what I am using for exploring South America. Upon returning to Colombia, I plan to ride 29er skinny tires, for long distance journeys. 

3. The Head Tube

The bike's design is not fussy; its 44mm universal head tube fits both the 1-1/8" steerer of my rigid fork and tapered steerers of suspension forks.

4. Sliding Dropouts

Besides allowing wider tires, the sliding dropouts lets you adjust the rear wheel's position; you can convert the drivetrain to single-speed in case of derailleur failure. This could be a lifesaver until a proper repair is possible, especially while riding in remote areas.

5. Geometry

  

The SOMA Riff excels in downhill performance, while maintaining its capability on technical or steep climbs, embodying the essence of an authentic hardtail; its head tube angle is a happy medium between a relaxed and reactive feeling. Additionally, the frame triangle offers ample space for installing a frame bag, crucial for long bikepacking adventures.

last but not least…

6. The Perfect Color

Pelham Blue, the iconic color used by Cadillac and Gibson during the 1960’s. 

The Riff's versatility has enabled me to have several bikes with a single frame—from a mountain bike for enduring long days in Colombia's steep mountains to a bikepacking cruiser for adventures across South America's most remote routes.

Follow our cycling projects on Monteadentro's website and Instagram account. 

¡Buenas rodadas amigos!

Catalina Melo 

Riding in the dryest desert of the world: Atacama

Peinado Volcano in Ruta de los Seis Miles

Cycling through the Patagonia Beer Trail

Catalina and her partner Jose in the Bariloche Valley

[ The Riff in Pelham Blue Catalina adores is no longer available. Current colors are Aquamint and Pearl White. The Riff is now Boost compatible, too. ]

15 Years of Mixte Bikes

 

The mixte bicycle has a history that isn't too well documented. As far as we can gleen from our internet research, it first made its debut in the Peugeot bicycle line-up in the 1940's. And they had mixte-type frames built up as city or light touring bicycles for decades (along with Gitane and few other French brands). They were sold only in France for the most part. Mixte style bicycles didn't become a hit in the USA until the 1970's when a gas shortage created a bike boom. Peugeot stopped making their mixtes around 1986, but not before its popularity in the USA led a lot of other bike manufacturers to produce their own mixte style bikes.

In the mid 2000's, Bradley Woehl of American Cyclery in SF (and Soma brand co-founder) mentioned to us there was renewed interest among young urban cyclists for the unusual twin top tube design. People were scouring garage sales and joyfully pulling them out of dumpsters. Custom frame builders were experimenting with mixtes, too. The old design was striking a chord with a new generation. Was it something about those truss-like intersecting the seat tube and converging with the chainstays and seatstay at the rear axle or just its perception as something vintage? Who is to say? Sensing an opportunity, we got down to designing our own Buena Vista mixte updated for modern 130/135mm spaced hubs and  threadless forks. We released it in 2009. 

With our use of oversized chromoly alloy steel  tubes, the frame set has proven to be not only a great foundation for a breezy stylish ride to cruise around town on, but a capable machine for long distance touring. Hope you can have the joy of your own professionally built, custom accessorized Buena Vista mixte. 

To celebrate 15 years of producing our Buena Vista frame set, we want to share 15 memorable images – mostly from the owners who ride them or the bike shops who have built them.

1) Lifestyle shoot from February 2009.
This was the first build we did of a production frame,
a fixed gear with Velocity Deep V wood-look rims.

2) This is what we thought folks would be doing with this type of bike.
Putting baskets on it and visiting the Broadripple Farmer's Market to get
flowers and organic kale. Being just dudes, there was some concern whether 
cycling enthusiasts would take the time and extra money to custom build a bike
– not to race or to tour hundreds of miles – but to just commute or do errands.
Photo: @adventureswithdarby

3) We were wrong. People did enjoy building these up.
Vintage beauties with shiny fenders and leather saddles.
Fast, simple athletic bikes, too.
It brought out rider's desire to express themselves.
This gentleman even painted the straps on his saddle bag to match the mint green panel on the frame. Photo: Manoske Aramaki @masnoko123

4) Blue Lug, a group of bike shops in Japan has built many fun and classy
Soma frames over the years. This one has aero levers on our Soma Sparrow
handle and running 1x drivetrain with a bar end shifter. 
The balanced use of earth tone colors with the graphite frame
has a particular Japanese aesthetic. Photo: @bluelug 

4) Another Japanese bike shop build, this one with drop bars.
Above Bike Store. @abovebike
The Buena Vista geometry is very close to our Double Cross and
endurance road frames. If you want to bring out the sportiness
of the Buena Vista, consider a drop bar build.

5) This was memorable build by American Cyclery. To commemorate the
75th anniversary of the Golden Gate Bridge, a customer wanted
their Buena Vista custom painted "International Orange", the official paint color
of the beloved landmark. Porteur Rack and fenders were also painted.

6) Soma Bicycle Belles: Two sisters and their mom touring in the UK.
All three riding Soma mixtes. The low top tubes offers
an alternative way to mount/dismount so you don't have to 
swing a leg over a bag and rack.

7) So the Buena Vista can make a good light touring
frame, especially if you are older or have
limited hip mobility. So that's what folks will gather
about what looks like a "ladies" bike. A lot of people
tour with cheaper bikes - just ride what you got.
But Nicole B. who has toured up and down the West Coast more
than a couple of times, made it clear to us that the
Buena Vista is a practical touring bike period...no need to
qualify it with "ifs" or "caveats". 

8) @wayamaeba1 inspires us. She has captured
her experiences of a beginning bike traveller
to now showing others the best places to go in Japan and how to do it.
Her ride is a small 42cm BV with 26" wheels and swaps
it to studded tires when the weather gets snowy.


 

9) The view from the saddle. Jakarta, Indonesia
Photo: @hotrodqueen

fff 

10) "I was explaining to my daughter the beautiful symmetry of the split top tubes
and the seattube bisecting the rear brake center pull cable,
when my son taught me a new word - nerdgasm" - downtube42 on Bike Forums
Photo: Blue Lug Kamiuma

11) The time we got into Bicycling Magazine and didn't have to 
schmooze or pester any editor. Hazy on how it happened. I think Bicycling
asked Constance of the Lovely Bicycle blog to do a feature on equipment
for every day city cycling. She borrowed her friend, @bikeyface 's bicycle
for the photo spread. Photos: Bicycling Magazine

12) Forget about the bike. Can we just talk about her look? 
Photo: @sweet.spoken
 

13) In late 2017 we introduced the first production mixte that ran disc brakes
(first that we know of). This was not a just a modernization, but
opened up where you could ride because you were no longer limited to 700x32c tires.
You could go off the beaten path. Gravel grinding. Gravel touring. Bikepacking.
Photo: @naimbag_nga_aldaw Frame bag: Oveja Negra

14) Handsome build but super capable build by Gold Finch Cyclery
of our latest disc mixte. 38mm tires with fenders, no problem.
With the black components and our wide Dream Riser bars, it hardly 
looks vintage anymore. Photo: @goldfinchcyclery Bags: Swift Industries

15) A second image from Ade Putri Paramadita (@hotrodqueen) Even though her
talent as a culinary storyteller has won her notoriety in Indonesia, she is also 
part of the rich Jakarta bike community. More than one artist has been
inspired to draw her with her mixte... Built fixed gear.